Monday, May 05, 2008

SALMOND (THE SPIV) THE TIMEROUS WEE ROYAL TOADY.

One year on from the SNP minority win and we seem to have stopped talking about Queen Betty.
I remember years ago when Nationalism was the preserve of what was called the lunatic fringe of politics, the Queen was to be first against the wall, she was Queen of England and she would have to go, come independence.
Please don't make the mistake of thinking this was funny, this was deadly serious, every Nationalist held fast to this part of the faith, she was not the Queen of Scotland and never would be.

"Scotland hasnae got a King and she hasnae got a Queen
how can there be a second Liz. when the first wans never been"

This elegant little piece of doggerel was sung to the tune of "The Sash My Father Wore" at SNP gatherings everywhere and they gave it laldy, big hairy rough Nationalists with wee daggers and big bottles of whiskey belted it out, and the men were every bit as bad, 'wee fund raising ceilidhs' regularly turned into tartan 'Nuremberg Rallies' only a wee bit less aggressive.

What has happened to that fervour, how did we get from that to " we can see no reason for not having the Queen, (Betty that is) as the head of the Scottish state" (Alex 'the Spiv' Salmond) SNP leader.
In those days there would have been "blood and hair on the walls Salmond (the spiv) would have been filleted by a hundred of they wee daggers that they hide down their socks.

The serious side of course is that those Nationalists were indeed the lunatic fringe but, they were sincere, absolutely no shades of grey, they meant what they said about the English and their bogus Queen, they were proud of their beliefs and their beliefs were sacrosanct.
Where are they now? some are still around, some in fact are in the council chamber, skulking and neutered of course but no doubt still dreaming of the future Scottish Kings and Queens but it's only ever going to be a dream now, they won't be carrying anyone "over the sea to Sky" not ever.

Like many other things, such as SNP claims to be on the left as well as the monarchy it's all been dumped by 'the spiv' he is afraid to even suggest that Betty is not the rightful monarch of an independent Scotland, to him and many Nationalists of a more modern stripe it was never going to happen.

Singing and stamping the feet is one thing, restoring the rightful Scottish heir is a different kettle of haggis, it's not even funny any more, in a strange way it's rather sad, all those passionate wooly headed sincere Nationalists have been conned by (Alex the spiv) will they ever rise again ? I doubt it.

IT never rains but, The highest prize for the manufacture of Malt Whiskey has been won by, wait for it, a Japanese company.
"Yoichi 20 year old" has won Whisky Magazine's first prize, there will be a lot of "ochoneing ochoneing" as well as girning in the hills and glens. That wee guy Nackawhatsit ? that plays with the Celtic, him that can open a tin of peas with his left foot, he better get a body guard.

Still they can take our lives, our whisky, our oil, but, will never, ever take our stinking weather !

95 comments:

Macnasty said...

'Alexander backs vote on independence.'

Councillor, your justification of Wendy's u-turn will make a rivetting read - let's be having it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Macnasty) 15:26

I’ll get to that but, maybe you could, just for a change stick to the point.

Would you care to give me Salmond (the spiv’s) reason for his historic ‘u’ turn on the rightful heirs to the Scottish throne.

Rumbold said...

Terry:

Er.. by Vera Baird's definition Elizabeth II is the rightful queen of Scotland.

Macnasty said...

Kelly @ 3.31 U-Turn

It might be your blog, but I asked first.

Daibhidh Deoch said...

"Would you care to give me Salmond's reason for his historic ‘u’ turn on the rightful heirs to the Scottish throne"

Easy- Political expedience. At the moment overt republicanism is detrimental to the pressing goal of political independence from Westminster by being a divisive issue amongst the electorate.
You are creating a false dichotomy though. One leader is trying to the best their nation, the other is trying to save their rapidly imploding political party.

Anonymous said...

You are a clown. An entertaining clown, but nevertheless a complete and utter clown.

It's not a U-turn. He's been saying this for years.

ShrekBall said...

They have stolen our weather.

Why is it so sunny? My pasty gingerness cannot cope.

Anonymous said...

Terry,
I've asked this before but perhaps this time I'll get an answer; If you're a socialist, what the f*ck are you doing representing the Labour Party?
Or is doubling the income tax paid by the lowest earners to pay for a tax cut for the better off a new kind of socialism that plebs like me simply can't understand.
Terry, you would defend the Labour party if it said we had to kill our grannies or eat our own waste. You have absolutely NO credibility.
I can see a huge switch from Labour to Lib Dem at the next general election. The Tories (the blue ones) will still win though.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Rumbold) 05/05/08

I can’t be bothered about who is the rightful Queen or King of anywhere, they are all parasites.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Macnasty) 05/05/08

I presume she thought it a good idea to call the blusterers bluff, he doesn’t seem to keen does he ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Daibhidh Deoch) 06/05/08

Indeed, we are going to hear a lot more of this wriggling and hiding. Bring it on, put your money where your mouth is. Come on ‘Bravehearts’ put em up !

Have you really got knickers on under your kilts after all.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 11:31
It’s a monumental ‘U’ turn and he made it a long time ago, some people don’t forget that easy and we will return to it.

Big Sean grovelling on his knees before the English Queen dressed like Harry Lauder - priceless. Wee Alex (the spiv) in his tartan troosers “yes your gracious majesty your most wonderfulness, we Scots love you, would you like to humiliate me further ? Please feel free your scrumptiousness”

Come on now - Scots wha hae dee dee dee dee dumb.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(ShrekBall) 12:47

I was out today walking the dogs today and it rained but, the rain certainly seemed a bit warmer.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 12:56

“I've asked this before but perhaps this time I'll get an answer”

You have never asked me that, never, I have never ducked that question.
I am in the Labour Party for the same reason that Tony Benn, Dennis Skinner, Ken Livingstone and thousands more like them are in it.

The Labour Party is the only vehicle which has the remotest chance of changing our society for the better, I prefer that to standing on the sideline carping, that’s for those who don’t have the stomach for the fight.

“Or is doubling the income tax paid by the lowest earners to pay for a tax cut for the better off a new kind of socialism that plebs like me simply can't understand”

You either don’t know what has happened to the poorer members of society under Labour or you are a liar.

Macnasty said...

Kelly @ 6.06
'Alexander u-turn on independence vote.'

Got you Councillor, you're saying it's yet another cunning plan - as when she only asked two questions, rather than her three - to wrong foot Salmond.

Bet the First Minister's having sleepless nights over this one.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Macnasty) 18:44

The two questions left him floundering and this seems to have done the same unless I’ve missed something, I haven’t heard anything from him and it’s three days.

Rumbold said...

Terry:

You are such a spoilsport. You are supposed to say that Bonnie Prince Charlie's line is the rightful one, and then I would explain why you were wrong. Darn it, thanks for spoiling my fun.

Anonymous said...

Terry
Wendy is reported to have started pushing for a vote 9 months ago.

From memory, this is around the time you were going ballistic at suggestions that you were her agent.

Given your views on independence, all is now clear - you were trying to put distance between yourself and this particular madness, but your loyalty wouldn't let you condemn her openly.

Terry, you were a lone voice, a man alone, the trailblazer, you saw her for what she is, a danger to Labour and only now is Westminster coming round to the same view.

Very well done.

Anonymous said...

I do not think the "Gnats" would drink whiskey by choice! Maybe you are getting a wee bit confused just for a change.

Macnasty said...

Wendy and Independence

Crikey Terry, just when you thought it was safe to go out,things suddenly got worse.

The Wendy fraud investigation looks like being reopened and John Robertson, says her wish for an independence vote 'isn't wise.'

Looks like those who believe it was a cunning plan to wrongfoot Alex are a minority group of one - you.

Whoever comes for you first, the rozzers or the Party Muscle, plead insanity and I'll back you up.

Anonymous said...


I presume she thought it a good idea to call the blusterers bluff, he doesn’t seem to keen does he ?


What bluff you cretin? He said they would hold a referendum in 2010 and he meant 2010.

He isn't the Labour party where a referendum is promised then not given because they think they might lose.

Why should he do anything other because that moron Alexander says he should? Is this one of those funny tactics like asking less questions than she could? Watch out everyone...clever Wendy is about again.

Anonymous said...

You either don’t know what has happened to the poorer members of society under Labour or you are a liar.

We do know though because Brown (24% spiv and dropping) said it was a mistake.

Anonymous said...

(Macnasty) 18:44

The two questions left him floundering and this seems to have done the same unless I’ve missed something, I haven’t heard anything from him and it’s three days.


Floundering? You mean in shock that the wee cretin didn't have the mental capacity to formulate another? Floundering? As in wrong footed? Politicians flounder when they are ASKED a question, not when they are NOT asked one; that's called DISBELIEF that she could be so utterly dumb. Maybe she should just not ask any questions...he might resign because she will have him properly won't she? Yeah...she'll have him right where she wants him..., yeah answering no questions at all...that'll teach him...oh wait...ROFLMFAO!!!!

As for not answering after three days...so what? HE is the First Minister and she is leader of a minor party. HE doesn't have to answer anything can this get any funnier or more bizarre that you make these ridiculous assertions?

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David Duff said...

"TIMEROUS"!?

I am not unsympathetic, Councillor, my own spelling isn't too hot; and anyway, possibly you are in good company because it might have been weak spelling and not the demands of scansion which caused your own national poet to elide the letter 'o' in describing his "Wee, sleekit, cow'rin', tim'rous beastie".

Anonymous said...

Terry;

I personally fail to understand how the S.N.P.s, "We will get to the subject of a referendum in our own time", constitutes your accusation of "floundering".

I am also a tad confused why it is that: you do not support a Scottish referendum - in fact it's a complete paradox, scanning throughout the pages of this blog.

Rarely have I come across a man that detests the English with a deeper passion.

Serpico said...

"You either don’t know what has happened to the poorer members of society under Labour or you are a liar."

Oh but we do. The poorer members have been made even poorer, feckless and unwilling to work. Whilst the Labour Party creates the client state of Labour voters intimidating them with the promise of "child benefit", "tax credits", "housing benefit" etc warning them that if they don't vote Labour the nasty Tories will take away all theri benefits.

Then the poor lambs will be in a right state. Unable to afford fags and beer and no longer able to lounge around watching Jeremy Kyle all day gorging on junk food. Horror of horrors, they may even have to work for a living and end up taking jobs from those nice immigrants that NuLab have brought in to work on slave wages.

We get it alright Councillor. Fact is, you don't. It's all boo hoo hoo, those nasty royals, they've gor more than me. And then you stamp your feet like a petulant two year old. Boo hoo hoo, the SNP are nasty, so you call them names.

You haven't yet realised that Blair and Brown sold the Labour Party's principles for the 30 pieces of silver of power. Where has it got them? The Labour Party of old, the one you yearn for is gone, dead and most likely buried at the next election along with the old Trots, Marxists and champage socialists.

Tony Benn. Don't make me laugh. He's got more money than Croesus and still makes a fortune on the theatre circuit with his banal "An Evening with Tony Benn". His own son has just sold off his share in the old family business. Why? Because they are offski. Moving lock stock and tax paying barrel to the Republic of Ireland where corporation tax is just 12%. That and to avoid his own chancellor's punitive CGT regime.

Stop living in the past. Get over yourself or go and join the Scottish Socialists. Or are they a tad too socialist for you?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(David Duff) 06/05/08

I feel quite humble to have such an intellectual giant read my blog.

I have a theory that if someone sends a comment and picks out a spelling or punctuation mistake, that person doesn’t really have a point to make, they haven’t an argument.

“your own national poet”

Who made him ‘National Poet’ ? If we really need a national poet can we not do better than him ? He couldn’t write the word F--- on a steamed up window, I suppose he sells tea towels though.

Anonymous said...

I think you just proved my point somewhat.

Scottish local government at its finest.

David Duff said...

Oh dear, I can't even do a cultural cringe properly. Still, if you're happy to slag off Burns who am I to complain.

"I feel quite humble". Indeed, and to paraphrase Chuchill, you have much to be humble about!

Generally, I agree with you concerning people who pick up minor grammatical errors on Blogs, in this case it was just the poetical connection that provoked my comment, not your spelling. I apologise.

The Incorrigible Plagiarist said...

Who made him ‘National Poet’ ?

Robert Burns (25 January 1759 – 21 July 1796) (also known as Rabbie Burns, Scotland's favourite son, the Ploughman Poet, the Bard of Ayrshire and in Scotland as simply The Bard) was a poet and a lyricist. He is widely regarded as the national poet of Scotland, and is celebrated worldwide. He is the best-known of the poets who have written in the Scots language, although much of his writing is also in English and a 'light' Scots dialect, accessible to an audience beyond Scotland. He also wrote in standard English, and in these pieces, his political or civil commentary is often at its most blunt.

He is regarded as a pioneer of the Romantic movement and after his death became an important source of inspiration to the founders of both liberalism and socialism. A cultural icon in Scotland and among Scots who have relocated to other parts of the world (the Scottish Diaspora), celebration of his life and work became almost a national charismatic cult during the 19th and 20th centuries, and his influence has long been strong on Scottish literature.

As well as making original compositions, Burns also collected folk songs from across Scotland, often revising or adapting them. His poem (and song) Auld Lang Syne is often sung at Hogmanay (New Year), and Scots Wha Hae served for a long time as an unofficial national anthem of the country. Other poems and songs of Burns that remain well-known across the world today, include A Red, Red Rose, A Man's A Man for A' That, To a Louse, To a Mouse, The Battle of Sherramuir, and Ae Fond Kiss.

Mary Barbour said...

Ah it's a bit like comparing the present Labour party with it's predecessors really -remember how Blair used to squirm at The Red Flag!
Kinnocks betrayal of the miners, the scrapping of clause four, the right wing economic policies. There's not a party in Britain that won't compromise to appease the tabloids.

Alexis said...

Terry I am disabled and as a result of my health can only work part-time. I was born this way and I do my best.

Instead of rewarding me for not claiming benefits my tax has increased by £13 since the tax raise on the poor came in. I am unable to have children. I don't work 30 hours or more per week both of which rule me out of tax credits. Labour have made me worse off. I have taken advice from my local welfare rights and the social and they both tell me that I'm entitled to nothing.

What is it I don't understand about what Labour have done for the poor?
Living on £6000 a year is hard enough, I don't see why you had to make it harder. Who benefits? Certainly not me or anyone like me.

Thanks for nothing.

zebedee said...

I take it you're not a Christy Moore fan then, Terry? His cover of "Scotland Hasnae Got a King" is a fine piece of folk music. I'll even upload it for you and your readers if you like.

Incidentally the 1950s stushie involving ERII (sic) resulted in the Court of Session ruling that the concept of unlimited Parliamentary sovereignty over the people did not apply to Scotland, where instead the people are sovereign over Parliament.

Something I'm sure a democrat such as yourself would wholeheartedly applaud.

Valerie said...

Terry I think it disgusting that they have posted over at terrywatch and you should do something.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 06/05/08

Drivel - I’m still pondering recent events.

Salmond (the spiv) and the SNP toadies want to retain the British Monarchy, at least none of them have the courage to demur.

Now they are afraid of a referendum - Bravehearts indeed !

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 06/05/08
If the SNP ever get independence you are in for a shock. Whiskey, Haggis, Kilts, Sporrans, wee daggers, Gaelic and of course allegiance to her Gracious Majesty Queen Elizabeth 11 and her heirs will be obligatory.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Macnasty) 06/05/08

What’s that noise I hear “whenever I feel afraid, give a little whistle”

Not only are the SNP scared of the British Monarchy but they are now afraid of a referendum. “wha wid be a traitor knave, let him turn and flee” the noo.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 06/05/08

What has happened over the last couple of weeks is that the public have been made aware that the SNP will accept the reign of the British Queen Elizabeth 11.
No one in their ranks has got the bottle to oppose this treachery by Alex (the spiv) Salmond.

Now we find the same thing applies to a referendum, talk is cheap and Salmond (the spiv) even cheaper. Why is there not one SNP member prepared to oppose these sell outs ? Where are the Bravehearts ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 06/05/08

“You either don’t know what has happened to the poorer members of society under Labour or you are a liar”

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 06/05/08

Salmond (the spiv) tried to spout his prepared third answer even though he hadn’t been asked a third question the chair had to tell him to stop, very embarrassing.

He can stay shtum for three days or more if he likes he is the first minister.

Hold on here. Alex (the spiv) hasn’t responded to Wendy Alexander’s challenge for three days, Alex (the spiv) hasn’t etc. shoorly shum mishtake. Alex (the spiv) hasn’t !!! “hark when the hills are calling” come on join in !

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 07/05/08

"We will get to the subject of a referendum in our own time" from the SNP this is simply an act of cowardice and treachery. It shows them up as blusterers.

“Rarely have I come across a man that detests the English with a deeper passion”

I have nothing but contempt for certain people, ‘peoples’ as in those who come from somewhere else don’t bother me at all.

Someone who hates people because of where they are born is a Nationalist. The hatred of the Scottish Nationalists for English people is a good example.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Serpico) 07/05/08

Was it really worthwhile taking all this time to write the same dross that you have done several times before, try an argument for a change.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 07/05/08

Wow - a philosopher in our midst.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(David Duff) 07/05/08

I think I’ve said this to you before.

You are not nearly as clever as you like to think.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(The Incorrigible Plagiarist) 07/05/08

So, apart from this, “ what has Burns ever done for Scotland” ?

Don’t forget he also wrote this masterpiece.

My heart's in the Highlands, my heart is not here,
My heart's in the Highlands a-chasing the deer -

W.T. McGonagall would have been strung up for less.

The Burns industry is a sign of the paucity of genuine poetic talent in Scotland’s past.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Mary Barbour) 07/05/08

I could list you a great number of fine people and many achievements from the Labour Party but, I take your point, I opposed all of the things on your list.

What did you do ? And, more importantly what do you suggest as an alternative ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Mary Barbour) 07/05/08

I could list you a great number of fine people and many achievements from the Labour Party but, I take your point, I opposed all of the things on your list.

What did you do ? And, more importantly what do you suggest as an alternative ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(zebedee) 08/05/08

This would be more impressive if it meant something.
Stop bouncing and consider what Salmond (the spiv) and the SNP are saying, it’s a betrayal of their members and supporters.

They accept that Scotland under independence will pay allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain etc. etc.

I don’t care who sings “Scotland hasnae got a king” it’s embarrassing doggerel, that’s why you never hear it now it is absolute cringe making.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Valerie) 07:58

Thank you for those kind thoughts but, I encourage people to visit it, I can’t think of a better way of exposing these reactionary cretins.

Anonymous said...

Post office closures by the British Labour Party?

Bring it on!!!!

zebedee said...

terry @ 12:10pm

Well it seemed to mean something to your party and its MPs when they trooped off to sign the Claim of Right in 1988. And guess which court case was used in the Claim of Right to assert the people were sovereign?

And anyway, according to your boss, the people will have our say on the Union. Another victory for popular sovereignty!

(Besides which you seem to have missed the point of the song completely, but I'll let that pass - you must have a lot on your mind at the mo)

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Alexis) 07/05/08

Following ‘that’ budget. 500,000 children will be lifted out of poverty - 600,000 pensioners will be excluded from paying tax - “the poorest third of the population are the biggest winners” (Robert Chote Director of Institute for Fiscal Studies) “It’s a pro-poor budget” (same man) those working full time on minimum wage go up £13 a week over last two years - over £3Billion spent on people on low incomes - £1 Billion on raising tax allowances for over 65’s - £1Billion raise for child tax credit - £1.3 Billion raise for income where tax credits are withdrawn.
Threshold for working tax credits up by £1,200
Age allowance up by £1,180 taking many pensioners out tax altogether.
Child tax credits up £175 above rate of indexation from £1,845 to £2,085

I can provide more if you want.

You should discuss your situation with your MP, if you are my constituent write to me or attend a surgery and I will try to help.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 14:37

£1.7 Billion investment in the Post Office by the Labour Govt.

Salmond (the spiv) wont bring it on will he.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(zebedee) 18:17
Talk is cheap - Salmond and the SNP are going to swear Scottish allegiance to the British Monarch, what a sell out, what a betrayal.

You can’t find a form of words to get round that, neither can Alex (the spiv) that’s why he’s put his hands up.
What’s he made of ? What are SNP members made of ? British Monarchists who are running away from an independence referendum, is there not one single one of you brave enough to tell the truth ? Not one.

“bought and sold for English gold” da dee da dee da dee da dee da da da, all together now!

Macnasty said...

Councillor
Do you support Wendy in her call for an immediate vote on independence?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Macnasty) 19:04

Since we have been saying for years that Scots. Don’t want independence and he has been saying they do, why not call his bluff, I want it.
He wont do it though because he knows the result and he’s a disingenuous coward. Why else would he say no after all those years of boasting and bragging ?

Macnasty said...

Kelly @ 7.19
Your loyalty to Wendy over the vote brings tears to these old eyes and moves me to quote poetry:

'Tho' all the world betrays thee,
One sword at least thy right shall guard,
One faithful harp shall praise thee.'

Given the PM's chilly reception of the idea, you've made a bad career move, but Kelly, you mad, loyal,lunatic harpist, I salute you.

Anonymous said...


What has happened over the last couple of weeks is that the public have been made aware that the SNP will accept the reign of the British Queen Elizabeth 11.
No one in their ranks has got the bottle to oppose this treachery by Alex (the spiv) Salmond.


So does Gordon Brown.

Babbity said...

I see you share my unhappiness with a minority government being in power. Would a minority Labour government resign on principle or is this just bitter opposition talk?

Johnny Boy said...

If most Scots don't want independence (and I agree they don't) where's the harm in letting the SNP have the referendum on their own terms?

That way they can't blame Labour interference for the inevitable defeat. I think 'Bring it on' is a terrible mistake.

Do we want to shut the SNP up once and for all? If so let them do it on their own terms -the results WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER BE to their liking .

I am not a violent person but if Scotland was forced out of the UK I would take up arms to defend our place in Britain and I know many many other people who are ready to do the same.

The best thing we could do is orgainse every unionist gun licence holder in Scotland to stage a vigil for the union outside the parliament.

They will tremble at the legal firepower ranged against them. Add that to what people will be prepared to do illegally and the SNP will drop their referendum.

THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER> ONE BRITAIN UNDER ONE QUEEN> A REFERENDUM WILL NOT STOP US> WE HUNT GNATS WERE NOT SELECTIVE START WATCHING YOUR TARTAN BACKS>

Alison said...

I'm no whisky drinker -give me a drop of Chilean red any day but why are you happy to see British companies losing out to the Japanese?

We should cherish any industry we have in this country -jobs are scarce enough.

Serpico said...

"Was it really worthwhile taking all this time to write the same dross that you have done several times before, try an argument for a change."

Whassamatter Terry, was it a bit too long for you. No matter. My visa for Burma came through this morning so I'm off with the Red Cross for a while.

Why don't you come with us? Let me know if you are interested and I'll see if I can get you on to the next mercy flight.

Oh silly me...that would mean you getting off your fat arse and doing something about those less fortunate than yourself instead of wailing into your beer about it.

Don't worry Terry, I'll be back sometime in the autumn.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Macnasty) 08/05/08

Like the ‘Minstrel boy’ I do what I believe to be right.

Salmond (the spiv) tells us that he is so superior to Wendy and then runs away from a fight with her.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 08/05/08

No one in the SNP has got the bottle to oppose Salmond (the spiv’s) treachery.

An SNP lack of ‘bottle’ as displayed by Salmond (the spiv) backing down from Wendy.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Babbity) 08/05/08
I’m unhappy with a minority Govt. But you are not very clear here, I would form an administration and take it from there if it meant another election then so be it. That’s where the SNP are at the moment, I don’t have a problem with that, am I missing something ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Johnny Boy) 08/05/08
I think it’s a mistake to let the SNP have anything on their own terms, I take it you are not political.

“I am not a violent person but if Scotland was forced out of the UK I would take up arms to defend our place in Britain and I know many many other people who are ready to do the same” “The best thing we could do is orgainse every unionist gun licence holder in Scotland to stage a vigil for the union outside the parliament”

This is blatant discrimination against unlicensed gun holders.

“They will tremble at the legal firepower ranged against them”

I’m scared already.

I was right with you until you slipped in that bit about the Queen.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Alison) 08/05/08

I’m not happy to see a British company losing out.

I worked in the whisky industry and I know that the product has more to do with marketing than with taste so I just thought the story was funny.

According to the many gullible experts out there Scotch Whisky can only be made from the rich clear water from highland streams which run past my Grannies Heilan Hame. That kind of guff.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Serpico) 08:02

I doubt if the Red Cross would touch someone like you with a barge pole.

Besides, are they not suffering enough without a military camp follower and armchair commando getting in their way ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 08/05/08

“anonymous but not in hiding’ just about sums you up. I think the contempt that my old man and his brothers had for the Army and it’s leaders would have covered you as well.

Macnasty said...

Kelly @ 6.04
'I do what I believe to be right.'

Well said Terry and you're in good company, with Churchill, Thatcher and Salmond sharing your philosophy, if not your politics.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

macnasty) 18:50

Churchill was a drink sodden upper class oaf , Thatcher was a murderess and Salmond (the spiv) makes Del Boy Trotter look like George Washington.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

macnasty) 18:50

Churchill was a drink sodden upper class oaf , Thatcher was a murderess and Salmond (the spiv) makes Del Boy Trotter look like George Washington.

June said...

Salmond (the spiv) tells us that he is so superior to Wendy and then runs away from a fight with her.

What fight?!

There is no fight, just as there ould be no fight if David Cameron demanded a referendum on the EU and Brown refused.

Silly old man.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(June) 09/05/08

Fight, contest, exchange, skirmish, battle, clash you choose one. He bottled it big style.

Like most bullies he’s a coward.

June said...

Fight, contest, exchange, skirmish, battle, clash you choose one. He bottled it big style.

Like most bullies he’s a coward.


Silly, silly man. You and your ilk using these idiotic tactics are why Labour are an irrelevance in Scotland now, and down to 24% nationally, and falling.

There is no fight, there is nothing for him to bottle, because there is no question of a referendum NOT BEING HELD! The SNP have a commitment to it. So Wendy challenged him to hold it now, so good for her, but she is not in power and has no right or expectation that Salmond will CHANGE SNP POLICY TO SUIT HER. Let her cross the house and join the SNP then maybe Salmond will listen to her, but while she is Labour why should he?

Silly tactics from a silly, a silly party, and a silly woman.

Tearlach said...

"I think it’s a mistake to let the SNP have anything on their own terms, I take it you are not political.

“I am not a violent person but if Scotland was forced out of the UK I would take up arms to defend our place in Britain and I know many many other people who are ready to do the same” “The best thing we could do is organise every unionist gun licence holder in Scotland to stage a vigil for the union outside the parliament”

This is blatant discrimination against unlicensed gun holders."

Fascinating - if I read your reply correctly you are saying that you will support armed resistance to a democratic vote on political change?

Gosh I always wondered where Mugabe got his inspiration, now I know.

Or perhaps it's the other way round.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(June) 10/05/08

Maybe you don’t understand politics, maybe you are being disingenuous. Politicians are entitled to challenge each other any time, that’s what they do.

You will just have to live with it, Wendy challenged him and he blinked, remember this ? “80% of Scots. want a referendum” (Salmond ’the spiv’) but he backed off, a bully and a coward.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Tearlach) 10/05/08

“Fascinating - if I read your reply correctly you are saying that you will support armed resistance to a democratic vote on political change”

As I explained to another comment, I just assumed that this poster was not serious. Are you saying that you think this guy is serious ?

If I were you I would involve the ‘Harry Margolis’ right away, you could become a Scottish hero like Mel Gibson, Sean Connery or even oor Wullie.

June said...

(June) 10/05/08

Maybe you don’t understand politics, maybe you are being disingenuous. Politicians are entitled to challenge each other any time, that’s what they do.


No, it is you who don't understand ADULT politics. Alexander is perfectly entitled to challenge Salmond, but on something he has agreed to anyway? That isn't a challenge that is plain dumb.

You will just have to live with it, Wendy challenged him and he blinked, remember this ? “80% of Scots. want a referendum” (Salmond ’the spiv’) but he backed off, a bully and a coward.

Please explain how he is a bully and coward for sticking top manifesto commitments? I could agree if he had NOT stuck to manifesto agreements, like Labour lies in their manifestos, but not for sticking to it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(June) 11/05/08

You are telling lies to yourself here, you are saying that Salmond ‘the spiv’ is too honourable to go back on a manifesto promise even if he knew he could win, that is just about the most stupid or dishonest thing I have heard yet in all of this.

He has already broken manifesto promises and this is one which could win him independence if he won the referendum and you think he would not go back on his word ! This is Alex (the spiv) Salmond for god’s sake, he would poison his parents to get to the orphans outing.

Wendy frightened him off, he bottled it.

June said...

(June) 11/05/08

You are telling lies to yourself here, you are saying that Salmond ‘the spiv’ is too honourable to go back on a manifesto promise even if he knew he could win, that is just about the most stupid or dishonest thing I have heard yet in all of this.


No, you are lying to yourself and trying to imagine that is what I am saying. This is bizarre that you are trying to credit me with saying something that I did not say. Whether he would go back on a manifesto commitment to hold a referendum or not is not the issue, the issue is that HE HAS NOT, and that is what is bugging you.

He has already broken manifesto promises and this is one which could win him independence if he won the referendum and you think he would not go back on his word ! This is Alex (the spiv) Salmond for god’s sake, he would poison his parents to get to the orphans outing.

But he hasn't broken this one has he? You cannot attack him for breaking manifesto commitments and at the same time attack him for not breaking them, that is plain silly and the mark of the bully and frightened schoolboy.

Wendy frightened him off, he bottled it.

I doubt very much that Alexander would frighten anyone off. This kind of tactic strengthens the SNP, which is maybe you and her goal?

Serpico said...

Postcard from The Edge:

Greetings from Vientiane. We have been waiting for 2 days for clearance to take a mercy flight across into Burma for a parachute drop into the remote mountain regions.

Terry, please can you get on the blower to your socialist mates in Rangoon and tell them to stop playing silly buggers. There are people in need of the basics and we can't even get flyover rights.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(June) 12/05/08

You are lying to yourself. Independence is his raison detre or so he says, independence is massively popular or so he says.

He struts around and calls Wendy every insult he can think of always accompanied by his trade mark truculent sneer and suddenly he is challenged to put up or shut up and, the bully collapses.

Is there anything sweeter than seeing an arrogant bully getting his comeuppance ?

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Serpico) 10:07

I take back what I said, when I consider the Forces with ‘Winco Willie’ and ‘Hooray Henry’ you probably are the type that they would employ.

The poor Burmese haven’t they suffered enough ? At least you won’t get to play with guns will you ?

Serpico said...

"The poor Burmese haven’t they suffered enough ? At least you won’t get to play with guns will you ?"

Strictly NGO work - no guns allowed and the Laotians are working their socks off to help us get into Burma. Shame that you resort to ridicule when there are people dying in the streets.

Did you phone your socialist muckers? Word is that we may sneak in under cover of darkness. The air defence systems have been all but knocked out by the cyclone. Chocks away Biggles.

June said...

(June) 12/05/08

You are lying to yourself. Independence is his raison detre or so he says, independence is massively popular or so he says.


Are you totally devoid of any sense at all? The facts are as stated, so I am not lying to myself and you are lying to yourself. You are a minority party in Scotland and seem set to get even smaller, get over it, stop crying and move on.

He struts around and calls Wendy every insult he can think of always accompanied by his trade mark truculent sneer and suddenly he is challenged to put up or shut up and, the bully collapses.

So you say, but again you lie to yourself.

Is there anything sweeter than seeing an arrogant bully getting his comeuppance ?

What comeuppance? You've yet to say anything factual.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Serpico) 10:58

“Shame that you resort to ridicule when there are people dying in the streets”

Well you started it.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(June) 17:45

That’s 3 times you have sent the same post and this is the 3rd time I’m saying that Wendy called his bluff and he crumbled, I think that’s enough.

Anonymous said...

You seem to be confused, Terry. The SNP is not a republican party. Like Labour, it is a broad church and some individual party members may hold republican views but the party line is monarchist.

Apart from anything else, the current queen holds the throne because of direct descent from Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots, so she's probably more constitutionally entitled to be Queen of Scots than to be Queen of England.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Anonymous) 14/05/08

“the party (SNP) line is monarchist”

Here’s another wee line from that SNP song -

“An we’ll mak oor land Republican wae the Scottish breakaway” da dee da da dum dee dee da dum etc.

My very point, they (The SNP) were republican until Salmond (the spiv) turned them into “New SNP”

Bob Flowers said...

"My very point, they (The SNP) were republican until Salmond (the spiv) turned them into “New SNP”"

And Labour were socialist until Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson and Gordon "Courage" Brown turned them into "Tory-lite"

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Bob Flowers) 15/05/08

I’m glad to have your agreement about the SNP

Bob Flowers said...

To be honest, I couldn't give a rat about the SNP. But if they were to extend voting in the referendum on Scottish independence to the English, I'd be more than happy to support Alex Salmond.

If only to get rid of Gordon Brown and his Jockuza.

Cllr Terry Kelly said...

(Bob Flowers) 08:45

What have the Scots. done to you ? Were you bitten by one as a child ?

Bob Flowers said...

"What have the Scots. done to you ? Were you bitten by one as a child ?"

Did you not read the last sentence?

To get rid of Gordon Brown and his Jockuza.